From:Dave Hennessey e-mail:dave-A-toyhouse.org
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Seat identification Date:Sun Nov 3 17:31:05 2013
Response to:18921
Yes, I believe the 48-49 Model 125 seat was first used on the ELC Knuckleheads produced for the Canadian military during WWII.

Where did it come from? No idea. It certainly is very un-Harley-like, and I doubt that Harley designed and made them. British and continental motorcycle seats looked similar, but it's hard to imagine importing 44 seats from overseas in the middle of a war. But you never know.

More than likely, they were purchased from somewhere on this side of the ocean. I suspect BSAs and Triumphs were popular in Canada before the war, and it's possible that these were spare parts for one of those makes.

We certainly weren't buying them from the German DKW company in the middle of the war with Germany. This page http://www.toyhouse.org/dkw/ shows the 1941 DKW RT-125 I used to own, but I think the seat was from a later year. Click on the link "Info from Russia" for some more pictures of period DKWs - similar looking seats, but not the same.

Harley sold about 19,000 Model 125's in 1948 and 1949. I'm guesing they made the frames in house, and had the covers made by Milsco. Are these exactly the same as the ones used on the ELC? Don't know.

The 1949 Spare Parts Catalog does not show the saddle without the cover, but it does show 2 long springs, 8 medium sized springs and one short (nose) spring, similar to the saddle shown on ebay item 171164499488.

That's all I know...

Dave





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Following the reference in chapter 65 - SEATS I Googled "ELH Harley" and quickly found this;

http://www.ridingvintage.com/2013/05/the-canadian-model-elc-knucklehead.html

It looks like a hummer seat mounted on the rear fender.

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Steve. I've seen these frames with many distributions of springs and internal stays, from steel strapping bent the hard way in between the short (front) and the long springs. to like the one on Ebay now with no or few long springs. I'm guessing that the rumor they were left over war seats may have allowed they were made mast anywhere. Of course some farm wife may have remade your seat (or any one of the ones I've seen) in 1952. Perhaps better than Harley used originally.

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I have one of those frames, however, the appearance is different than what is on the bike in the photo. Is it just the way the material is installed on the seat frame? Any other comments? Thanks.

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one of those seats uncovered is on ebay item 171164499488
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Hello,
I am new to the Harley Hummer scene and recently purchased a 1949 125 for a restoration project. Attached is a photo of a hummer which I would like to know where I could purchase a seat such as the one shown in the photo. I have found similar seats, but none without the seat material wrapping down the rear of the seat. Would anyone know where I could purchase such a seat? Or have one made?
Thank you in advance.