From:Joep van der Steen e-mail:joepvdsteen-A-gmail.com
Subject:RE: RE: RE: Seat question Date:Mon Feb 15 05:13:49 2016
Response to:21008
With the sentence "but also a new sadle if you have
those" I actually mean a solo pan type which was used on
the 1951 machine (or similar as the 51 model)

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Hi Duane

So what I would need is :

the older type of bracket complete
a new sadle
the canvas

but also a new sadle if you have those

Just email me on what you can supply

thanks
Joep

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JOEP:

HAVING RESTORED 75 OR MORE OF THESE SADDLES I ADMIT THEY
ARE NOT EASY TO DO. FROM YOUR PICTURES OF THE FINISHED
FRAME AND SPRINGS, BE AWARE THAT YOU DID NOT
FOLLOW YOUR ORIGINAL EXAMPLE.

FIRSTLY, A CANVAS HAS TO BE RIVETED TO THE BACK BOW OF
THE FRAME AS YOU SEE IN THE LEFT LOWER PICTURE YOU
POSTED. THE FRONT PORTION OF THE CANVAS IS FOLDED AND
RIVETED TOGETHER, THEN SLOTTED FOR THE FRONT 8 SPRINGS.
THEN AN 1/8TH IN ROD IS INSERTED THROUGH THE CANVAS FOLD.
THEN ONE END OF THE FRONT SPRING IS INSERTED THROUGH A
SLOT AND AROUND THE ROD. THE OTHER END IS ATTACHED TO
FRONT OF THE FRAME AS YOU HAVE DONE. ALL 8 NOSE SPRINGS
ARE DONE THE SAME WAY.

THE TWO METAL TABS YOU NOTE WERE MEANT TO HOLD THE REAR
OF
THE COVER DOWN. THE FRONT WAS HELD IN PLACE BY A SPRING
THAT WAS UNDER THE NOSE PORTION OF THE LATERAL SKIRTS.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE MOUNTING TABS IN THE UPPER LEFT PICTURE
YOU POSTED.

IT APPEARS YOU HAVE A LATER SADDLE NOSE BRACKET. THE
48-49 SADDLES LIKE YOU HAVE USED A BRACKET WITH TWO SIDE
PLATES, A NOSE SPACER, INNER BUSHING , A NOSE ATTACHING
BOLT AND TWO MOUNTING BOLTS FROM THE SIDE PLATES TO THE
FRAME.

OF INTEREST (AT LEAST TO ME)

I HAVE SEVERAL ORIGINAL EXAMPLES OF THESE SADDLES.
SOME HAD A THIRD LONG SPRING THAT HOOKED TO THE TWO LONG
SPRINGS AND RAN CROSSWAY UNDER THE SADDLE CENTER.
PROBABLY MEANT TO SUPPORT THE LARGER OR HEAVIER
POSTERIOR. I DOUBT THIS WAS AN ADD-ON BY OWNER OR DEALER
AS IT WOULD REQUIRE SADDLE REMOVAL TO DO SO.

THE CANVAS AS USED FOR THESE SADDLES IN THAT DAY WAS THE
SAME AS USED ON FARM REAPERS. STILL AVAILABLE TODAY AND
IN STOCK WHERE GET MINE.

THERE WERE TWO VERSIONS OF THE COVER. YOU HAVE THE
FIRST
TYPE WHICH IS NOT AVAILABLE ANYWHERE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
THE SECOND VERSION WAS A SO-CALLED "COACH" COVERING AND
WAS USED ON HORSE DRAWN VEHICLES AND SOME CAR EXTERIORS.

IF YOU NEED ANY OF THE SADDLE PARTS, I WASTED A FAIR
AMOUNT OF TIME MAKING THEM AND THEY ARE ON THE SHELF. I
MADE ENOUGH SETS TO LAST ABOUT 75 YRS AT CURRENT SALES
RATE.

DUANE TAYLOR








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Another question : I got this seat, which is supposed to
be one of the older ones from 1948.
I have redone the frame and springs already
ZTh ecloth should be an easy thing, but has anyone any
idea how the seat is connected to the frame ?

If I check the bottom of the seat I see two clips which
will fold around the frame, but are thos the only things
holding the seat to the frame ?

Thanks again

Joep